{"id":6417,"date":"2012-12-09T17:40:03","date_gmt":"2012-12-09T22:40:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/goldstocksforex.com\/?p=6417"},"modified":"2012-12-09T17:40:03","modified_gmt":"2012-12-09T22:40:03","slug":"phoney-recovery","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thepatientinvestor.com\/index.php\/2012\/12\/09\/phoney-recovery\/","title":{"rendered":"Phoney recovery?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>First signs of recovery after a recession are normally rising earnings, initially from corporate cost-cutting but followed up with rising revenues.<\/p>\n<p>With massive central bank pump priming &#8212; referred to by Mark Mobius <a title=\"Mark Mobius\" href=\"http:\/\/goldstocksforex.com\/2012\/12\/09\/mobius-no-global-recession-on-the-cards\/\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a> &#8212; this time may be different. Flows of new money from central bank balance sheet expansion are likely to find their way into the stock market &#8212; and even the housing market &#8212; driving up prices. But consumption is lagging with slow growth in employment and average wages. With lackluster sales growth, earnings are likely to remain sluggish. Which means inflated stock market valuations and high price-earnings ratios as stocks are driven into over-bought territory. Not a solid foundation for a sustained recovery but another rung up the ladder of risk.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>First signs of recovery after a recession are normally rising earnings, initially from corporate cost-cutting but followed up with rising revenues. With massive central bank pump priming &#8212; referred to by Mark Mobius here &#8212; this time may be different. 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