{"id":63030,"date":"2025-11-08T02:18:02","date_gmt":"2025-11-08T02:18:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thepatientinvestor.com\/?p=63030"},"modified":"2025-11-08T02:28:29","modified_gmt":"2025-11-08T02:28:29","slug":"asx-stock-pricing-falls","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thepatientinvestor.com\/index.php\/2025\/11\/08\/asx-stock-pricing-falls\/","title":{"rendered":"ASX Stock Pricing Falls"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fleximage\">\n<div class=\"flexhalf flexhalf_always\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2025\/2025-10-17-aus-bull-bear-gauge.png?resize=525%2C297&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Bull-Bear Market Indicator\" width=\"525\" height=\"297\" \/><\/div>\n<div class=\"flexhalf flexhalf_always\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2025\/2025-11-07-asx-stock-value-gauge.png?resize=525%2C297&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Stock Market Pricing Indicator\" width=\"525\" height=\"297\" \/><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>The gauge on the left indicates whether the market is in a bull or bear phase, while the indicator on the right reflects the current stock market valuation. Stock market pricing indicates whether stocks are cheap or expensive relative to earnings, but it is a <strong>poor indicator of market timing<\/strong>. We do not recommend selling stocks because the market valuation is high. Still, we advise investors to exercise caution when adding new positions.<\/p>\n<h2>Bull\/Bear Market<\/h2>\n<p>The ASX Bull-Bear Market indicator remains at 56%, down from 66% four weeks ago. Four indicators from Australia and China indicate a risk-on stance, with a 60% weighting, while the US Bull\/Bear indicator, with a 40% weighting, is 60% risk-off.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2025\/2025-11-07-asx-bull-bear.png?resize=525%2C218&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"ASX Bull-Bear Market Indicator\" width=\"525\" height=\"218\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The OECD composite leading indicator for China strengthened to 99.59 from 99.52 in September\u2014values below 99.0 signal risk-off.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2025\/2025-11-07-china-oecd-leading.png?resize=525%2C404&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"OECD Composite Leading Indicator\" width=\"525\" height=\"404\" \/><\/p>\n<p>September Australian building approvals rebounded to 16.8K, with the 3-month moving average holding above the 20-year average\u2014values below the long-term moving average signal risk-off.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2025\/2025-11-03-aus-approvals.png?resize=525%2C345&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Australian Building Approvals\" width=\"525\" height=\"345\" \/><\/p>\n<h2>Stock Pricing<\/h2>\n<p>ASX stock pricing declined to 86.44 percent from 88.70 percent last week, compared to a high of 92.23 percent in August and a low of 67.85 percent in April.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2025\/2025-11-07-asx-stock-value.png?resize=525%2C263&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"ASX Stock Market Value Indicator\" width=\"525\" height=\"263\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"background: #eef; padding: 0.25em;\">We use z-scores to measure each indicator&#8217;s current position relative to its history, with the result expressed in standard deviations from the mean. We then calculate an average of the five readings and convert that to a percentile. The higher that stock market pricing is relative to its historical mean, the greater the risk of a sharp drawdown.<\/p>\n<h2>Conclusion<\/h2>\n<p>The ASX bull-bear indicator reflects a mild bear market, while the extreme valuation increases the long-term risk of a significant drawdown.<\/p>\n<h4>Acknowledgments<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li>NAB Monthly Business Survey: <a href=\"https:\/\/business.nab.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/NAB-Monthly-Business-Survey-April-2025-.pdf\">April 2025<\/a><\/li>\n<li>ABS: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.abs.gov.au\/statistics\/industry\/building-and-construction\/building-approvals-australia\/latest-release\">Private Dwelling Approvals<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Trading Economics: <a href=\"https:\/\/tradingeconomics.com\/china\/business-confidence\">China Business Indicators<\/a><\/li>\n<li>OECD: <a href=\"https:\/\/data-explorer.oecd.org\/vis?lc=en&amp;pg=0&amp;snb=1&amp;vw=tl&amp;df[ds]=dsDisseminateFinalDMZ&amp;df[id]=DSD_STES%40DF_CLI&amp;df[ag]=OECD.SDD.STES&amp;df[vs]=&amp;dq=CHN.M.LI...AA.IX..&amp;to[TIME_PERIOD]=false&amp;lom=LASTNPERIODS&amp;lo=300\">Composite Leading Indicators<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Morningstar: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.morningstar.com.au\/investments\/security\/index\/xao\/portfolio\">ASX 20 Statistics<\/a><\/li>\n<li>S&amp;P Global Indices: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.spglobal.com\/spdji\/en\/indices\/equity\/all-ordinaries\/#overview\">All Ordinaries Statistics<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Market Index: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marketindex.com.au\/statistics\">ASX Statistics<\/a><\/li>\n<li>ABS: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.abs.gov.au\/statistics\/economy\/national-accounts\/australian-national-accounts-national-income-expenditure-and-product\/latest-release\">National Accounts<\/a><\/li>\n<li>ASX: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.asx.com.au\/about\/market-statistics\/historical-market-statistics\">Historical Market Statistics<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The gauge on the left indicates whether the market is in a bull or bear phase, while the indicator on the right reflects the current stock market valuation. Stock market pricing indicates whether stocks are cheap or expensive relative to earnings, but it is a poor indicator of market timing. We do not recommend selling &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/thepatientinvestor.com\/index.php\/2025\/11\/08\/asx-stock-pricing-falls\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;ASX Stock Pricing Falls&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mo_disable_npp":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[40],"tags":[6797,6798,7032,6770],"class_list":["post-63030","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-australia-nz-countries-regions","tag-asx-bull-bear-market-indicator","tag-asx-stock-market-value-indicator","tag-australian-building-approvals","tag-oecd-composite-leading-indicator-for-china"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>ASX Stock Pricing Falls - the patient investor<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"noindex, follow\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"ASX Stock Pricing Falls - the patient investor\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"The gauge on the left indicates whether the market is in a bull or bear phase, while the indicator on the right reflects the current stock market valuation. 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