{"id":62993,"date":"2025-11-01T05:20:54","date_gmt":"2025-11-01T05:20:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thepatientinvestor.com\/?p=62993"},"modified":"2025-11-01T05:20:54","modified_gmt":"2025-11-01T05:20:54","slug":"us-stock-pricing-at-new-high-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thepatientinvestor.com\/index.php\/2025\/11\/01\/us-stock-pricing-at-new-high-2\/","title":{"rendered":"US Stock Pricing at New High"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fleximage\">\n<div class=\"flexhalf flexhalf_always\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2025\/2025-08-06-us-bull-bear-gauge.png?resize=525%2C297&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Bull\/Bear Market Indicator\" width=\"525\" height=\"297\" \/><\/div>\n<div class=\"flexhalf flexhalf_always\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2025\/2025-10-31-us-stock-value-gauge.png?resize=525%2C297&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Stock Market Pricing Indicator\" width=\"525\" height=\"297\" \/><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>The gauge on the left indicates bull or bear market status, and the one on the right reflects stock market valuation levels. Stock market pricing indicates whether stocks are cheap or expensive relative to earnings, but it is a <strong>poor indicator of market timing<\/strong>. We do not recommend selling stocks because the market valuation is high. Still, we would advise investors to be circumspect about adding new positions without carefully investigating the underlying value.<\/p>\n<h2>Bull\/Bear Market<\/h2>\n<p>The Bull\/Bear indicator remains at 40%, warning of a bear market ahead. Updates to three market indicators (highlighted in orange below) are delayed because of the US government shutdown.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2025\/2025-10-31-us-bull-bear.png?resize=525%2C167&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Bull-Bear Market Indicator\" width=\"525\" height=\"167\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The Philadelphia Fed Coincident Economic Activity Index deserves mention in the absence of updates for some of our regular indicators. A decline below 2.5% typically only occurs several months ahead of a recession.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2025\/2025-10-31-coincident.png?resize=525%2C372&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Coincident Economic Activity Index\" width=\"525\" height=\"372\" \/><br \/>\nThe Chicago Fed National Financial Conditions Index continues to signal loose monetary conditions, supporting high stock prices.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2025\/2025-10-31-nfci.png?resize=525%2C372&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Chicago Fed National Financial Conditions Index\" width=\"525\" height=\"372\" \/><\/p>\n<p>However, a decline in bank reserves below $3.0 trillion warns that repo markets are tightening.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2025\/2025-10-31-bankreserves.png?resize=525%2C372&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Commercial Bank Reserves\" width=\"525\" height=\"372\" \/><\/p>\n<p>And Bitcoin continues to test support at 110K, warning of tighter liquidity.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2025\/2025-10-31-btc.png?resize=525%2C372&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Bitcoin (BTC)\" width=\"525\" height=\"372\" \/><\/p>\n<h2>Stock Pricing<\/h2>\n<p>Stock pricing increased to a new high of 98.66 percent, compared to an April low of 95.04 percent. The extreme reading warns that stocks are at risk of a significant drawdown.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2025\/2025-10-31-us-stock-value.png?resize=525%2C296&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Stock Market Value Indicator\" width=\"525\" height=\"296\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"background: #eef; padding: 0.25em;\">We use z-scores to measure each indicator&#8217;s current position relative to its history, with the result expressed in standard deviations from the mean. We then calculate an average for the five readings and convert that to a percentile. The higher that stock market pricing is relative to its historical mean, the greater the risk of a sharp drawdown.<\/p>\n<p>Robert Shiller&#8217;s CAPE index climbed above 40 for the first time ever outside of the Dotcom bubble. CAPE compares the S&amp;P 500 index to a ten-year average of inflation-adjusted earnings.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2025\/2025-10-31-spx-cape.png?resize=525%2C342&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"S&amp;P 500 CAPE\" width=\"525\" height=\"342\" \/><\/p>\n<h2>Conclusion<\/h2>\n<p>The bull-bear indicator at 40% warns of a bear market ahead, while extreme pricing increases the long-term risk of a significant drawdown.<\/p>\n<h4>Acknowledgments<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li>Prof. Robert Shiller: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.econ.yale.edu\/~shiller\/data.htm\">CAPE 10 Data<\/a><\/li>\n<li>S&amp;P Global: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.spglobal.com\/spdji\/en\/indices\/equity\/sp-500\/#overview\">S&amp;P 500 Sales and Earnings Estimates<\/a><\/li>\n<li>University of Michigan: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sca.isr.umich.edu\/charts.html\">Survey of Consumers<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Federal Reserve of St Louis: <a href=\" https:\/\/fred.stlouisfed.org\/\">FRED Data<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Bureau for Economic Analysis: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bea.gov\/data\/gdp\/gross-domestic-product#collapse86\">Motor Vehicles Data<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4>Notes<\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li>See <a href=\"https:\/\/thepatientinvestor.com\/index.php\/managing-risk\/\">Managing Risk<\/a> to learn more.<\/li>\n<li>See <a href=\"https:\/\/thepatientinvestor.com\/index.php\/bull-bear-market-indicator-september-26-2024\/\">Bull-Bear<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/thepatientinvestor.com\/index.php\/stock-market-valuation-september-25-2024\/\">Stock Valuation<\/a> for more on our composite market indicators.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The gauge on the left indicates bull or bear market status, and the one on the right reflects stock market valuation levels. 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