{"id":5923,"date":"2012-10-30T02:56:07","date_gmt":"2012-10-30T06:56:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/goldstocksforex.com\/?p=5923"},"modified":"2012-10-30T02:56:07","modified_gmt":"2012-10-30T06:56:07","slug":"whats-the-use-of-economics-alan-kirman-vox","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thepatientinvestor.com\/index.php\/2012\/10\/30\/whats-the-use-of-economics-alan-kirman-vox\/","title":{"rendered":"What\u2019s the use of economics? &#124; Alan Kirman &#124; vox"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This column by Alan Kirman highlights the problem with macroeconomics today:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The simple question that was raised during a recent conference organised by Diane Coyle at the Bank of England was to what extent has &#8211; or should &#8211; the teaching of economics be modified in the light of the current economic crisis? The simple answer is that the economics profession is unlikely to change. Why would economists be willing to give up much of their human capital, painstakingly nurtured for over two centuries?<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;&#8230;.rather than making steady progress towards explaining economic phenomena professional economists have been locked into a narrow vision of the economy. We constantly make more and more sophisticated models within that vision until, as Bob Solow put it, \u201cthe uninitiated peasant is left wondering what planet he or she is on\u201d (Solow 2006).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>via <a href='http:\/\/www.voxeu.org\/article\/what-s-use-economics'>What\u2019s the use of economics? | vox<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This column by Alan Kirman highlights the problem with macroeconomics today: The simple question that was raised during a recent conference organised by Diane Coyle at the Bank of England was to what extent has &#8211; or should &#8211; the teaching of economics be modified in the light of the current economic crisis? The simple &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/thepatientinvestor.com\/index.php\/2012\/10\/30\/whats-the-use-of-economics-alan-kirman-vox\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;What\u2019s the use of economics? &#124; Alan Kirman &#124; vox&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mo_disable_npp":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[1184,2187,2332],"class_list":["post-5923","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-economy","tag-economics-profession","tag-macroeconomics","tag-models"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>What\u2019s the use of economics? &#124; Alan Kirman &#124; vox - the patient investor<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"noindex, follow\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"What\u2019s the use of economics? &#124; Alan Kirman &#124; vox - the patient investor\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"This column by Alan Kirman highlights the problem with macroeconomics today: The simple question that was raised during a recent conference organised by Diane Coyle at the Bank of England was to what extent has &#8211; or should &#8211; the teaching of economics be modified in the light of the current economic crisis? 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