{"id":19059,"date":"2019-10-12T05:44:45","date_gmt":"2019-10-12T05:44:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thepatientinvestor.com\/?p=19059"},"modified":"2019-10-12T05:47:56","modified_gmt":"2019-10-12T05:47:56","slug":"sp-500-and-europe-new-deal-or-a-false-dawn","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thepatientinvestor.com\/index.php\/2019\/10\/12\/sp-500-and-europe-new-deal-or-a-false-dawn\/","title":{"rendered":"S&#038;P 500 and Europe: New deal or a false dawn?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Donald Trump and is making noises about an <a href=\"https:\/\/thepatientinvestor.com\/index.php\/2019\/10\/12\/trade-talks-extend-and-pretend\/\">interim trade deal<\/a> with the CCP, while Boris Johnson appears to be making <a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/story\/johnsons-brexit-proposal-creates-illusion-of-victory-for-both-sides-11833165\">progress on a Brexit deal<\/a> with Ireland premier Leo Varadkar.<\/p>\n<p>Trump&#8217;s announcement is little more than a sham, intended to goose financial markets, with nothing yet committed to writing:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Trump said the deal would take three to five weeks to write and could possibly be wrapped up and signed by the middle of November\u2026.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8230;what could possibly go wrong?<\/p>\n<p>The economy continues to tick along steadily, with unemployment and initial jobless claims near record lows.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2018\/2019-10-11-unemployment-initialclaims.png?w=525&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Unemployment &amp; Initial Jobless Claims\" \/><\/p>\n<p>But <a href=\"https:\/\/thepatientinvestor.com\/index.php\/2019\/10\/03\/the-cost-of-uncertainty\/\">high levels of uncertainty<\/a> are likely to create a drag on consumer spending and stock earnings.<\/p>\n<p>At the outset of Donal Trump&#8217;s presidency, value investor Seth Klarman, who runs the $30 billion Baupost Group hedge fund, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.smh.com.au\/business\/markets\/a-quiet-giant-of-investing-weighs-in-on-trump-20170212-guazp5.html\">predicted<\/a> the impact that Trump would have on financial markets:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cThe erratic tendencies and overconfidence in his own wisdom and judgment that Donald Trump has demonstrated to date are inconsistent with strong leadership and sound decision-making&#8230;..<\/p>\n<p>The big picture for investors is this: Trump is high volatility, and investors generally abhor volatility and shun uncertainty&#8230;. Not only is Trump shockingly unpredictable, he\u2019s apparently deliberately so; he says it\u2019s part of his plan.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In his letter, Mr Klarman warned: \u201cIf things go wrong, we could find ourselves at the beginning of a lengthy decline in dollar hegemony, a rapid rise in interest rates and inflation, and global angst.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>While not entirely prescient &#8212; we have low interest rates and low inflation &#8212; Klarman was right about the decline in dollar hegemony and the rise in global angst.<\/p>\n<p>Markets are clearly in risk-off mode.<\/p>\n<p>US Equity ETFs recorded a net outflow of $824m this week, compared to a net inflow of $2,104m into US Fixed Income. Year-to-date flows present a similar picture, with a 3.3% inflow into US Equity compared to 13.9% into US Fixed Income (Source: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.etf.com\/sections\/weekly-etf-flows\/weekly-etf-flows-2019-10-10-2019-10-04\">ETF.com<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2018\/2019-10-11-etf-ytd.png?w=525&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"ETF Flows YTD\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Long tails on the S&amp;P 500 candles indicate buying support. Expect another test of our long-term target at 3000. Volatility remains above 1%, however, indicating elevated risk. Breach of 2800 is unlikely at present but would offer a target of 2400.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2018\/2019-10-11-spx.png?w=525&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"S&amp;P 500\" \/><\/p>\n<p>According to <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/J7ifjio7Ma?amp=1\">Factset<\/a>, the S&amp;P 500 is likely to report a third quarter this year with a year-on-year decline in earnings.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/J7ifjio7Ma?amp=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2018\/2019-10-11-factset.png?w=525&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"S&amp;P 500 Earnings\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Nasdaq 100 paints a similar picture, with another test of 8000 likely.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2018\/2019-10-11-ndx.png?w=525&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Nasdaq 100\" \/><\/p>\n<p>It is becoming impossible to justify current heady earnings multiples when reported earnings are declining.<\/p>\n<h2>Europe<\/h2>\n<p>If <a href=\"https:\/\/news.sky.com\/story\/johnsons-brexit-proposal-creates-illusion-of-victory-for-both-sides-11833165\">Johnson&#8217;s &#8220;free trade zone&#8221; for Northern Ireland<\/a> can break the Brexit impasse, then there may be room for optimism over the future UK &#8211; EU relationship.<\/p>\n<p>Europe seems to be stirring. Trailing a distant third, to North America and Asia in terms of investment performance, there are some early encouraging signs. A higher trough indicates buying pressure and breakout above 400 on DJ Stoxx Euro 600 would signal a primary advance.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2018\/2019-10-11-stoxx.png?w=525&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"DJ Euro Stoxx 600\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The Footsie shows similar early signs of a potential recovery. A higher trough on the trend Index indicates buying pressure. Breakout above 7600 would signal a primary advance.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.incrediblecharts.com\/images\/2018\/2019-10-11-ftse.png?w=525&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"FTSE 100\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Let us hope that this is not a false dawn and the UK and EU are able to resolve their differences.<\/p>\n<p>For the present, our outlook for the global economy remains bearish and equity exposure for <a href=\"https:\/\/thepatientinvestor.com\/index.php\/my-portfolios\/\">International Growth<\/a> is a low 34% of portfolio value.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Donald Trump and is making noises about an interim trade deal with the CCP, while Boris Johnson appears to be making progress on a Brexit deal with Ireland premier Leo Varadkar. 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