{"id":10704,"date":"2014-08-24T02:43:44","date_gmt":"2014-08-24T06:43:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/goldstocksforex.com\/?p=10704"},"modified":"2014-08-24T02:43:44","modified_gmt":"2014-08-24T06:43:44","slug":"tom-devine-why-i-now-say-yes-to-independence-for-scotland","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thepatientinvestor.com\/index.php\/2014\/08\/24\/tom-devine-why-i-now-say-yes-to-independence-for-scotland\/","title":{"rendered":"Tom Devine: Why I now say yes to independence for Scotland"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Tom Devine, Scotland\u2019s most celebrated historian of recent years, reveals why he now intends to vote in favor of independence on September 18:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I come from a Labour background that includes my grandfather, mother and father and I was very much anti-independence at the start of the campaign. For me, the catalyst for change has been how threadbare the union has become since the early 1980s and linked to that is the transformation of Scotland. I wouldn\u2019t have voted for this in the Scotland of the 1970s or 80s. It\u2019s the Scotland that has evolved since the late 80s and 90s that is fuelling my yes vote. It now seems to me to be in a fit condition to run a successful economy. There is a list of reasons for this.<\/p>\n<p>There has been a Scottish parliament which has demonstrated competent government and that parliament has also indicated, by the electoral response to it, that the Scottish people seem to be wedded to a social democratic agenda and the kind of political values which sustained and were embedded in the welfare state of the 1950s. In fact, you could argue that it is the Scots who have tried to preserve the idea of Britishness in terms of state support and intervention, and that it is England that has chosen to go on a separate journey since the 1980s.<\/p>\n<p>There has been an enormous increase in a sense of Scottishness and pride in Scottish identity which has itself been sustained by an explosion in Scottish writing and creative arts since the 1980s, especially in relation to my own subject. We now have a proper modern history of Scotland which we didn\u2019t have until as late as the 1970s and 1980s. We now have a clear national narrative sustained by objective and rigorous academic research. In 1964, one of my great predecessors Professor Hargreaves said that the history of modern Scotland is less studied than the history of Yorkshire.<\/p>\n<p>There has also been a silent transformation of the Scottish economy. As late as early 1980s it was not sustainable owing to the continuing domination of the dinosaur heavy industries. The problem there was simply that labour costs not be sustained in an emerging global economy where goods and machines could be made cheaper elsewhere. Of course the process could have been managed much more sensitively and more thoughtfully by a Labour government, instead it was the radical surgery of Thatcherism and Toryism that had its way. What we have now \u2013 and this has been the case since the mid-1990s and de-industrialisation \u2013 is a diversified economy in which heavy industry, light manufacturing, the electronics sector, tourism, financial services have come together. And the vibrant public sector is important in terms of employment. We now have a resilient economic system.<\/p>\n<p>We also have considerable reserves of one of the most important things for an independent state and that is power; power through the assets of oil and also through the potential of wind energy. Scotland is disproportionately endowed with these, compared to almost all other European countries. So, in other words, because of this economic transformation, which has undoubtedly led to social dislocation for many communities \u2013 and let\u2019s not forget that \u2013 we now have an economy that can sustain itself in a resilient way in world markets.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I support his decision, but am concerned that Devine doesn&#8217;t seem to realize that Scotland has a thriving and vibrant economy precisely because it has moved away from the welfare state policies of the 1950s and 60s. Oil will obviously play a part, but Scotland has no future as an independent nation unless it follows the Irish model of an open economy, encouraging global industries to locate there. Nothing would discourage global industry faster than a glimpse of 1960s-style British Labour policies.<\/p>\n<p>Read more at <a href='https:\/\/theconversation.com\/tom-devine-why-i-now-say-yes-to-independence-for-scotland-30733'>Tom Devine: why I now say yes to independence for Scotland<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tom Devine, Scotland\u2019s most celebrated historian of recent years, reveals why he now intends to vote in favor of independence on September 18: I come from a Labour background that includes my grandfather, mother and father and I was very much anti-independence at the start of the campaign. 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