{"id":10527,"date":"2014-08-04T21:27:19","date_gmt":"2014-08-05T01:27:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/goldstocksforex.com\/?p=10527"},"modified":"2014-08-04T21:27:19","modified_gmt":"2014-08-05T01:27:19","slug":"ukraine-an-opposing-point-of-view","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thepatientinvestor.com\/index.php\/2014\/08\/04\/ukraine-an-opposing-point-of-view\/","title":{"rendered":"Ukraine: An opposing point of view"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I received this from a long-time subscriber and requested permission to publish in the interest of presenting both points of view:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Dear Colin,<br \/>\nBeing a subscriber to Incredible charts for many years and liking it very much, for some external reasons I was not reading articles for a long time, but when I happened to read the latest &#8220;Europe leads markets lower&#8221; article I was completely taken aback how it is politically charged and how it seems to be based on mass media propaganda, not on unbiased facts and analysis&#8230; It does not leave a good impression at all. I don&#8217;t mind other people having their own opinion, but I think that it should not be imposed on others in supposedly non-political, business articles, so may we respectfully ask your editors to refrain from politically motivated language and argumentation in the business articles and leave it to politicians and political forums instead ? I am talking about the anti-Russian bias and rhetoric &#8211; I am a Ukrainian citizen and lived in Ukraine for 30 years before moving to Australia 20+ years ago and I still have friends living in Ukraine, so I think that I am a bit more qualified on this topic than Mr. Abbott&#8217;s speeches or Mr. Murdoch&#8217;s newspapers. The plain fact is that neo-nazi thugs came to power in Ukraine as the result of coup-de-tat in February (supported and sponsored by some Western countries) and once the Constitution was thrown out of window, the law and order does not exist any more there (so called theory of &#8220;controlled chaos&#8221; is in full swing), all power ministry heads and many personnel were replaced with ultra-nationalists, civil war was started and atrocious war crimes are committed as we speak &#8211; anyone with the different view to people in power at the moment is declared an enemy, people are disappearing, burned alive (in Odessa on 2nd of May), etc. Ukrainian army and semi-legal &#8220;national guards&#8221; battalions are bombarding south-east regions after they declared that they are not recognising Kiev&#8217;s neo-nazi government and everyone who knows a little bit of history would understand why that was their choice voted in referendum by majority of these regions population. This has nothing to do with Russia, but has everything to do with the people in power in Ukraine and their western supporters. In fact, Russia&#8217;s showed and still showing a great deal of patience for so many years and seems to be the only country that tries to find some peaceful solution without depriving people of their basic rights to choose the way of living. As for Crimea, this was Russian people\/territory for hundreds of years until year 1954 when it was given (read stolen) by decree from the then General Secretary of USSR communist party of Ukrainian nationality and that decree was not legal even by laws of that time &#8211; no one raised strong objections at the time simply because it was the same country anyway. Later, when breaking apart Soviet Union (again not legally and against the will of people who spoke on referendum), no one cared about sorting this out properly and for 23 years Ukraine was ruling in Crimea while Russia and people of Crimea were somewhat patient about it until the February coup-de-tat in Kiev and neo-nazi coming to power. Parliament and people of Crimea made their choice very clear in law and referendum where 97% of people voted to become independent state (not unlike Kosovo so cherished by Western countries) and their natural choice and only protection would be to ask Russia to join it which Russia accepted and why it should not ? People of Crimea were saying at the time that &#8220;we may not be joining the Heaven in Russia, but definitely we are escaping the Hell&#8221; which is exactly what happens now in the former south-east region of Ukraine. If anything, Mr. Obama and other western leaders should stop baseless and counter-productive aggression against Russia and tell their buddies in Kiev to stop this violence and start diplomatic efforts. My apologies for such a long email, but I am just very saddened by the way how it is portrayed in Western media &#8211; brainwashing people who are not multilingual and cannot access alternative points of view.<br \/>\nRegards,<br \/>\n<strong>Name Withheld<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Dear <em>Name Withheld<\/em>,<br \/>\nI appreciate you taking the time to write and express your views.<\/p>\n<p>I am very concerned about the state of affairs in Eastern Europe. It is, and always has been, a tinder box. And one unintentional spark can start a fire that none of the parties intended. Respect for borders and for the rights of other countries and their citizens is one of the fundamental safeguards to prevent such outbreaks of war. Russia, no matter how strong a regional power, does not have the right to simply take territory by force because it once belonged to them or because they need the territory as a &#8220;buffer&#8221; to protect themselves from &#8220;encirclement&#8221; or outright aggression. If all states acted like that we would be in a constant state of war. They have to respect the conventions designed to safeguard the world from future wars and pursue the matter through negotiation or the international courts.<\/p>\n<p>If history serves me correctly, the territory is neither Russian or Ukrainian, but Crimean. It should be up to the people who reside in the region and those who originate from there, like the Tartars, to negotiate its future and not be subjected to a ballot at the point of a gun.<\/p>\n<p>Please can I post your letter on my blog in the interests of giving both points of view &#8212; with your name withheld if you wish.<\/p>\n<p>Regards,<br \/>\nColin<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I received this from a long-time subscriber and requested permission to publish in the interest of presenting both points of view: Dear Colin, Being a subscriber to Incredible charts for many years and liking it very much, for some external reasons I was not reading articles for a long time, but when I happened to &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/thepatientinvestor.com\/index.php\/2014\/08\/04\/ukraine-an-opposing-point-of-view\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Ukraine: An opposing point of view&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mo_disable_npp":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[26,29],"tags":[892,3006,3521],"class_list":["post-10527","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-russia-former-ussr","category-the-big-picture","tag-crimea","tag-russia","tag-ukraine"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Ukraine: An opposing point of view - the patient investor<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"noindex, follow\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Ukraine: An opposing point of view - the patient investor\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"I received this from a long-time subscriber and requested permission to publish in the interest of presenting both points of view: Dear Colin, Being a subscriber to Incredible charts for many years and liking it very much, for some external reasons I was not reading articles for a long time, but when I happened to &hellip; 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